Jewish intermarriage was so low in the past not because it didn’t happen, but because virtually all Jews who intermarried converted to Christianity or secularized. It was actually fairly common in Germany at the time so much so that Jews seemed to be on a rather serious demographic decline. There were not much Orthodox Jews in Germany, most were assimilated. Same story with Lenin’s grandpa; Lenin probably didn’t even know he had Jewish ancestry. Lenin was also sort of a mystery meat creature in general. He was an eighth mongolian and also had Volga-Uralic, Swedish, and German ancestry.
The 2009 study you cite is kind of outdated. Mischlinge already are bound to cluster with Europeans on a broader scale because Ashkenazic Jews are only a bit more “southerly” than Southern Italians. What is being measured here is a particular Ashkenazi Jewish drift component, which was formed due to the medieval bottleneck European Jews went through. And today we could definitely separate out someone with an eighth or quarter Jewish ancestry from non-admixed white gentiles.
I would say, it is about as valid to say “Nazis were Christian” as it is to say “Nazis were tolerant of half Jews”. Both are wrong, but both have some basis in reality. Hitler’s issue with half-Jews wasn’t that they immanently displayed unaryan characteristics en masse, but that their blending into German society will cause the reemergence of certain undesirable recessive Jewish genes generations down the line. Which is why the participation of 1st degree Mischlings was restricted to “honorary Aryans”, who were often made so postmortem interestingly enough. They also obviously had loyalty to their fully Jewish family members, making them a fifth column even if they identified as Protestant Germans.
You are incorrect that these groups will halt “Haiti 2.0” from happening. They’re extremely small minorities. People on the “fringes” of Whiteness tend to recognize the contradictions of White political behavior more than people in the core of Whiteness. But for the most part, Mischlings are more Jewish and more atheist than ever, as well as more non-white than ever, while only a tiny minority of brown people will actually gain a true love for white civilization (something most of Fuentes’s brown allies do not even have)
My theory: Firstly, Nick just allies with whoever glazes him. That’s why he’s allied with plenty of people of Jewish ancestry like Loomer and Milo. And he hates whoever has ties with people he doesn’t like. This is the primary reason he’s kvetching about Vance, because Vance follows BAP. This is why he targeted Sailer, because Sailer was on BAP’s podcast. Albeit, he was kind of right to target Sailer, who seems to have sold himself out…
As far as the “Mischling right”, it likely has to do with Jews just being a genetically politically enthusiastic and skilled people, and some of those people instead of adopting left wing fringe, adopt right wing fringe. This is not that historically unseen, if you look long enough you’ll find them in history. Their politics on Israel are likely an attempt to reconcile their Jewishness with their antisemitism. You can see it too with emphasis on certain thinkers. The reason BAP likes Gobineau so much, probably partially because Gobineau is in fact worth looking into, but it’s also probably because Gobineau has a more favorable opinion on Jews, racially speaking.
This is a fair critique of some of my points, especially regarding assimilation vs conversion. Not sure how to quantify pre-19th century Jewish-gentile mixing / conversions. Maybe there are records of adult baptisms of people with Jewish names that could be indexed to approximate the rate of conversion. Would love if someone has already done that work for me but I'm probably not going to go through the archives myself.
We're really getting into the weeds here, but my only point about the Nazis was to directly reference German law, which granted legal equality to "individuals with one Jewish grandparent." Not sure if you misread me as talking about half Jews, which belonged to a different category.
Yeah, I think there are books which talk about the high Jewish intermarriage and emigration rate of interwar Germany but I don’t have them on hand. Don’t think this is all directly an attempt to rebut things you said in your article, overall I agree with it. I just thought I’d add some of my own thoughts to the situation
Some claim the actual German nazi leadership included many mischlings in their ranks. Hard to interpret if true, but I would think it might explain the BAPs of the world somewhat
"To reject multi-racialism is to reject America itself. Accordingly, the purest white nationalists are anti-American. Atomwaffen, Asatru, and the Northwest Front all represent the secessionist or terrorist tendency of movements which put race before nation. This is not popular, and doesn’t have the cultural, religious, or financial capital to ever become viable in itself."
Jewish intermarriage was so low in the past not because it didn’t happen, but because virtually all Jews who intermarried converted to Christianity or secularized. It was actually fairly common in Germany at the time so much so that Jews seemed to be on a rather serious demographic decline. There were not much Orthodox Jews in Germany, most were assimilated. Same story with Lenin’s grandpa; Lenin probably didn’t even know he had Jewish ancestry. Lenin was also sort of a mystery meat creature in general. He was an eighth mongolian and also had Volga-Uralic, Swedish, and German ancestry.
The 2009 study you cite is kind of outdated. Mischlinge already are bound to cluster with Europeans on a broader scale because Ashkenazic Jews are only a bit more “southerly” than Southern Italians. What is being measured here is a particular Ashkenazi Jewish drift component, which was formed due to the medieval bottleneck European Jews went through. And today we could definitely separate out someone with an eighth or quarter Jewish ancestry from non-admixed white gentiles.
I would say, it is about as valid to say “Nazis were Christian” as it is to say “Nazis were tolerant of half Jews”. Both are wrong, but both have some basis in reality. Hitler’s issue with half-Jews wasn’t that they immanently displayed unaryan characteristics en masse, but that their blending into German society will cause the reemergence of certain undesirable recessive Jewish genes generations down the line. Which is why the participation of 1st degree Mischlings was restricted to “honorary Aryans”, who were often made so postmortem interestingly enough. They also obviously had loyalty to their fully Jewish family members, making them a fifth column even if they identified as Protestant Germans.
You are incorrect that these groups will halt “Haiti 2.0” from happening. They’re extremely small minorities. People on the “fringes” of Whiteness tend to recognize the contradictions of White political behavior more than people in the core of Whiteness. But for the most part, Mischlings are more Jewish and more atheist than ever, as well as more non-white than ever, while only a tiny minority of brown people will actually gain a true love for white civilization (something most of Fuentes’s brown allies do not even have)
My theory: Firstly, Nick just allies with whoever glazes him. That’s why he’s allied with plenty of people of Jewish ancestry like Loomer and Milo. And he hates whoever has ties with people he doesn’t like. This is the primary reason he’s kvetching about Vance, because Vance follows BAP. This is why he targeted Sailer, because Sailer was on BAP’s podcast. Albeit, he was kind of right to target Sailer, who seems to have sold himself out…
As far as the “Mischling right”, it likely has to do with Jews just being a genetically politically enthusiastic and skilled people, and some of those people instead of adopting left wing fringe, adopt right wing fringe. This is not that historically unseen, if you look long enough you’ll find them in history. Their politics on Israel are likely an attempt to reconcile their Jewishness with their antisemitism. You can see it too with emphasis on certain thinkers. The reason BAP likes Gobineau so much, probably partially because Gobineau is in fact worth looking into, but it’s also probably because Gobineau has a more favorable opinion on Jews, racially speaking.
This is a fair critique of some of my points, especially regarding assimilation vs conversion. Not sure how to quantify pre-19th century Jewish-gentile mixing / conversions. Maybe there are records of adult baptisms of people with Jewish names that could be indexed to approximate the rate of conversion. Would love if someone has already done that work for me but I'm probably not going to go through the archives myself.
I don't think Haiti 2.0 would happen anyway (I have another article on that: https://deepleft.substack.com/p/haiti-vs-hawaii-beyond-genocide).
We're really getting into the weeds here, but my only point about the Nazis was to directly reference German law, which granted legal equality to "individuals with one Jewish grandparent." Not sure if you misread me as talking about half Jews, which belonged to a different category.
Yeah, I think there are books which talk about the high Jewish intermarriage and emigration rate of interwar Germany but I don’t have them on hand. Don’t think this is all directly an attempt to rebut things you said in your article, overall I agree with it. I just thought I’d add some of my own thoughts to the situation
Some claim the actual German nazi leadership included many mischlings in their ranks. Hard to interpret if true, but I would think it might explain the BAPs of the world somewhat
"To reject multi-racialism is to reject America itself. Accordingly, the purest white nationalists are anti-American. Atomwaffen, Asatru, and the Northwest Front all represent the secessionist or terrorist tendency of movements which put race before nation. This is not popular, and doesn’t have the cultural, religious, or financial capital to ever become viable in itself."
Lmao
Lmao because those groups are goofy, or lmao because you disagree?