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Meghan Bell's avatar

Interesting post -- if you haven't checked out his work yet, I highly recommend Ian McGilchrist's "The Master and His Emissary". What you're describing as neurotic Aspergers-like high intelligence here is better described as hyper-mechanistic and left-brained intelligence, couple with a dysfunctional right hemisphere. In other words, the mad scientist isn't mad because he has a high IQ, but both the madness and the "high IQ" (keeping in mind IQ is an imperfect measure of intelligence and misses many aspects of it) are both a result of a brain that is lopsided toward the left hemisphere and mechanistic, black-and-white, bottom-up, abstract, hyper-logical, autistic/schizophrenic thinking.

“[T]he Binet test, especially at older age levels, involves above all logical, abstract thinking. Since this is what autistic children often find so congenial, they may achieve a high score, which would give a false picture of their intelligence.” -- Hans Asperger

It's also worth noting that IQ tests are extremely limited in their ability to accurately measure any IQ beyond that of the designers of the tests.

Here, I dive into the relationship between a high IQ (particularly in childhood) and Aspergers' in detail in this essay. I also look at causal factors and the relationship to gender dysphoria.

https://thecassandracomplex.substack.com/p/the-drama-of-the-gifted-children

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Rajeev Ram's avatar

> The brain makes its final transition from “under construction” to “open for business” during puberty, which is a very difficult period emotionally and psychologically. Like our ape cousins, we are social creatures. The longer we draw out our maturation, the more K-selected we become.

One problem of relying on physiological puberty as the 'final step' toward maturation is that it commits you to deploying velocity that is only appropriate to a narrow, stable socio-emotional ecology that can be expected to persist. As soon at that external ecology changes, you are pretty fucked. And we live in a time where that foundational ecology could be ripped out from behind you in 5 years or even 5 months.

I cannot look at a single person who is 21-24 years old today, especially the men (incl. me), and conclude that even if they had the right upbringing, virtue, health, etc. – they possess more than 15% of the requisite maturity to handle modern life in all of its exploding complexity. Anybody who 'succeeds' so simply today is just outsourcing the fragility to somewhere else in the web of interdependence, and if you trace the lines, you'll just see the neuroses/symptoms appear at the other end (or in many places between).

At the same time, the people who focus only on being super Lindy and RETVRN-ing to timeless principles, I find laughably naïve. There is 0% guarantee that the shredder of late stage empire won't come and rip up everything you love just because you submit yourself to TRADITIONEM.

> As a result, yes, you can forcibly change your personality with psychedelics, lobotomies, and other physical interventions, but these are crude and inaccurate ways of targeting neurotic neural pathways.

Yes, because in the capitalist West, these treatments are offered in a highly left-brained, disembodied, abstracted manner. It's the same thing as looking the back of a can of vegetables and seeing percentage daily values of various minerals and vitamins, and then downing the can because it promises to deliver some quantity. No, you did not get 200% of your necessary Magnesium, Jerry, because none of it may have properly metabolized and entered your bloodstream before you diarrhea-ed it all out.

The lens of medicine from Hippocratic, Galenic, Ayurvedic, Unani, TCM/中医, etc. is both more comprehensive and more surgical because it can place "selves" or "individuals" into larger & smaller contexts and treat them on different scales at the same time.

One wild trip with LSD won't make your CTO less abusive or less obsessed with securing Series C funding by hitting target metrics for app usage.

I'm highlighting those systems because certain lefty-ish Americans love to fetishize 'indigenous wisdom' by saying the Incas went into the forest and on the mountain and danced for hours after downing Iboga. There is a place for such entheogenic interventions in 'civilized' society, too, especially when it comes to correcting arrested maturity or inducing further maturational steps beyond puberty, as long as they are placed in the appropriate arena.

> This is where neurotic traits, which are generally debilitating or at least inconvenient, start to shine. Normal people have a very difficult time dealing with extreme, catastrophic events. Neurotic people, on the other hand, have the time of their lives. They dream of collapse. They imagine it every day. They are ready.

Look, as someone who is quite neurotic, but who doesn't appear that way (because my assertiveness sub-score from extraversion is absurdly high), I do not 'dream' of catastrophe, but you are right that I am *extraordinarily* prepared to wade through it, probably because of my neuroticism, which is a trait that helps one cope with volatility.

It's why I got paid $180K/y to help handle the largest distributed computing system on the planet. That sort of environment is nothing but perpetual crisis. It's also why I quit that environment, because I realized it was only training my catastrophizing neurons/muscles more deeply. Perhaps I have spiritually become drunk Appalachian cousin-fucker, not by birth, but through training.

I wish I got the catharsis that you speak of, because then there would be some payoff. Instead, even when shit falls apart and I handle it like a boss, I *still* feel utterly depressed. I theorize this is my conscientiousness signaling that even after eschaton, there is work to do, and all the more work to do since I was a survivor everything is now broken.

> We punish dysfunctional smart people more than functional dumb people. Hence the “evil genius” archetype is constantly getting beat up by the hero.

Yeah, I always found this trope to be a bit frumpy. In real life, I think it's much more practical & realistic for the chadly hero and the awkward mad scientist to pair up and find a way to conquer the world together. One supplies the technology, the other the social proof. Men tend to find ways to prioritize each other's interests foremost, far more than the interests of the princess locked in the tower, when they can leverage each other's strengths.

In the good old fairytales, the chivalric trope in literature was at least understandable because the knight-in-armor was facing genuinely terrible forces, e.g., a ten-headed monster that rapes fairies, and eats babies, and poops out poison bombs.

Beating up the resentful guy who is a loser because he read too much anime as a teenager, but is otherwise harmless, to impress your girlfriend is not heroic.

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