Yeah, obviously leftism gives its adherents short term benefits in terms of status (sort of, until society catches up and you're not longer edgy for promoting troonery and now have to promote pedos or whatever comes next,) access to better jobs (until the backlash) and dopamine rushes when you make some Chud EAT IT and APOLOGIZE.
In the long term, it gives you mental illness, streets full of Fentatron 3000s and their feces, and big-ass fires that burn down your uninsurable leftist neighborhood while Lesbian Firefighters of Color stand around picking their nose belligerently looking at their empty fire hoses (water went to the super valuable and endangered California Homo Smelt.) But, it's all good, because only the smartest, wealthiest, most successful leftists will be able to afford to rebuild their houses. Or something.
This shit sure do sound like them cordyceps, nomesayin, yo?
Agreed on crisis of competence but haredi —and any other insular ultra religious group—wont be innovating (outside the domain of being slumlords, insurance/welfare fraud) or maintaining advanced technological civilization either
Leftism is anarchistic and leftists exhibit and support anarchistic behaviors. The reason leftism is so pervasive is because modern democracies lack any sense of authority and leftists abuse freedom. Increased wealth & individuality leads to more shameless and dishonorable, crazy people because they have less family or community judging them.
Also modern democracies allow these crazy psychos to vote and organize. So there are crazy anarchistic psychos in government too. This is of course never before seen in human history because most of human history had authoritative governments and any psycho, apathetic, self hating society would get conquered or die off.
I mean the west & democracy is getting conquered and dying off too thanks to leftism so i guess it still holds true.
All this stuff is the tyranny part of anarchotyranny. YOU must wear your masks, use proper pronouns and secure consent in triplicate prior to initiating any sexual-coded conversation. Homo erectus is free to shit in the street, rape, burn and loot.
Covid masks are a valid point. I should note America is an anomaly with a fake right wing thats really libertarian in nature. So American right wingers are nutty and inconsistent themselves.
Pronouns, gender dysphoria, and all that crazy shit is obviously an anarchistic take towards the norms of binary genders. Its a genuine attempt at destroying normal human conceptions and gender roles. Leftists support Ukraine because Russia is authoritarian. Most universities have marxist elites and subversive “intellectuals” who support anarchism in respects to society.
Leftism is influenced by Communism which is a stateless (anarchist) philosophy. The whole attack on cultural norms and gender norms is to destroy labels, language, and cultural authority & standards, & even concepts of family & marriage or religion (which are all oppressive & built up by capitalism and capitalist/feudal government). Its just pure cultural anarchism.
Theres a reason why ‘free love’, modern art, homosexuality, open borders, atheism, weird sexual fetishes, body positivity, attacks on ownership, attacks on history/ones own nation, attacks on police authority, are all associated with the left.
I think you might think leftism is just the American centre left and right wing politics is just American libertarianism aka literally two sides of the same coin.
Why do leftists appear to identify so strongly with people who are often the least conscientious, i.e., the lumpenproletariat, blacks, etc.? Do they not comprehend other minds? I went to a mostly black high school and it took me no time at all to realize that many of those kids were not like me.
Possibly. But whether or not liberals are neurotic, they should be able to comprehend the nature of the lumpenproletariat. But it seems that they have a tendency to think “There but for the grace of God, go I.”
The thing about EMS and the like is that someone's got to do it. It seems like conservatives want people to view the most dangerous jobs as the center of society so that people do them. If a society thinks the best job are safe jobs, then police/fire/EMS will be done by unmotivated incompetents, or increasingly, barely done.
The fastest EMS service in the world is United Hatzalah of Israel, a volunteer organization. Valorizing first responders produces results that rationalizing first responders simply doesn't. New York, a city whose police department is larger than some armies, has slower EMS response times than Jerusalem.
I also think that the framework I propounded ought to be soundly rejected by any religious conservative. The theconservative attitude must hold any consequentialist outcomes as happy accidents. It is ok to believe that good myths create good societies. But if you think you understand how, you're making the same mistake liberals made when they thought they could eliminate myths. They also thought they had seen through the myths.
If you start judging mythologies by the outcomes they produce, are they still myths?
Why do you keep lumping in vaccine skepticism with other conspiracy theories? Here's a recent study on the effect of aluminum injected as part of vaccines (used as a toxin to stimulate an immune system reaction) on autism rates: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36136483/.
Age of the parent correlates better with autism than vaccine participation. Are you willing to listen to the other side and respond to arguments? Here you go:
Catherine Liu talks about what you describe as leftist signaling in her book Virtue Hoarders. TLDR would be that after the end of the new left, (neo)liberals who believe that the country can be changed to be more progressive through individual change a la Age of Aquarius champion intersectionality as the future. For the Professional Managerial Class it allows for them to be revolutionary with no praxis, all while serving to reproduce capitalist conditions. The PMC uses virtue signaling as a social credential or commodity. Leftism is dismissed as too radical, too unrealistic, and most of all too elitist by these neoliberals who eschew identity politics. Modern conservatives are not removed from identity politics, for every mainstream X there is ‘edgy’ conservative alternative Y to consume.
Pretty good article but I have a little question: Do you think leftism, at least the component that is obsessed with weird and costly « status games » is genuinely a good thing? Something that the worlds need more of?
It makes me think that, at best, it is like sexual selection favoring cool colors in some species of birds: it might be cool but it is not useful+ it is potentially dangerous in the sense that if a new predator arrives, the colorful birds are gonna get killed first.
You take for granted this manichean two-world grand narrative of "leftists" vs "conservatives" that conflates far too much. Corporate seminar leaders, Trotskite book clubbers, Fabian think tankers, anarcho-soup makers, Third-Wayists, Third-Wavists and Three-Arrowists are all different ideologies, different positions, different people.
I'm not being a nihilist, I'm saying your analysis is facile. You're conflating under the banner of "leftism" many contrasting ideological movements. We probably both agree for the need to use abstractions, heuristics, maps; and that you can have too much nuance— but you can also have not enough. To take one example: corporate hucksters like DiAngelo have a completely different agenda, philosophy, personality, politics, than say, Greek anarchists throwing rocks at cops, the YPJ battalion having gun fights with ISIS and Turkish forces, or the Mauritian socialist coalition government pushing for universal free internet. To conflate everything political that isn't conservative under the broadbrush banner of "leftism", drawing from a narrow North American milieu, and then musing about whether or not these "leftists" are being rational or insane, is highly parochial. You're like Voltaire said of the Holy Roman Empire, you're being neither deep, left, nor analytical.
You're article isn't— it accepts the most braindead conservative framing. But perhaps you're aiming at some kind of reductio and I should wait to see in future installments.
Moreover "leftist" is very vague and non-committal. There are social democrats, socialists, communists, anarchists of various sorts.
Fair enough. However, if all this weird modern liberal behavior is religious signalling instead of insanity, then opportunities abound for massive workplace discrimination lawsuits.
I disagree with your claim, “economics is downstream of religion” but I do agree leftism is a religion.
There more evidence that religion is downstream of economics. For example, how much the religious makeup of social cliques has a large effect on conversion rates. Or how Moralizing Big god religions are predicted by economic factors, military technology and agriculture output and have no causal effect in the reverse.
CRED theory is powerful and can explain much of weird human behavior but not all of it.
Name an economy not founded on religion. If you think the CCP isn't a religious structure, that's a semantic disagreement. I believe in secular religions.
The CCP is a religious organization. But the doctrines of Xi Jinping Thought is the product of economic forces. The economics come first then the religious rationale.
Nice, leftist wall of text meme IRL.
Yeah, obviously leftism gives its adherents short term benefits in terms of status (sort of, until society catches up and you're not longer edgy for promoting troonery and now have to promote pedos or whatever comes next,) access to better jobs (until the backlash) and dopamine rushes when you make some Chud EAT IT and APOLOGIZE.
In the long term, it gives you mental illness, streets full of Fentatron 3000s and their feces, and big-ass fires that burn down your uninsurable leftist neighborhood while Lesbian Firefighters of Color stand around picking their nose belligerently looking at their empty fire hoses (water went to the super valuable and endangered California Homo Smelt.) But, it's all good, because only the smartest, wealthiest, most successful leftists will be able to afford to rebuild their houses. Or something.
This shit sure do sound like them cordyceps, nomesayin, yo?
get ready for 11 more parts of this.
I'd appreciate it if you could time the rest of them to coincide with spectacular leftist systemic failures, too.
like what?
Like LA burning down
LA is a geographic failure -- shouldn't put a city in a fire zone. Seattle and Portland don't have fires.
The Russians say that when you're a bad dancer, your nuts are always getting in the way.
Agreed on crisis of competence but haredi —and any other insular ultra religious group—wont be innovating (outside the domain of being slumlords, insurance/welfare fraud) or maintaining advanced technological civilization either
Doesn't seem like a self evident proposition
I guess disciples got autocorrected to disciplines
my brain autocorrected it!
Leftism is anarchistic and leftists exhibit and support anarchistic behaviors. The reason leftism is so pervasive is because modern democracies lack any sense of authority and leftists abuse freedom. Increased wealth & individuality leads to more shameless and dishonorable, crazy people because they have less family or community judging them.
Also modern democracies allow these crazy psychos to vote and organize. So there are crazy anarchistic psychos in government too. This is of course never before seen in human history because most of human history had authoritative governments and any psycho, apathetic, self hating society would get conquered or die off.
I mean the west & democracy is getting conquered and dying off too thanks to leftism so i guess it still holds true.
COVID masks aren't anarchism. Pronoun rules aren't anarchism. Supporting Ukraine isn't anarchism. Sexual consent isn't anarchism. Harvard-worship isn't anarchism.
All this stuff is the tyranny part of anarchotyranny. YOU must wear your masks, use proper pronouns and secure consent in triplicate prior to initiating any sexual-coded conversation. Homo erectus is free to shit in the street, rape, burn and loot.
Violent crime is down.
Covid masks are a valid point. I should note America is an anomaly with a fake right wing thats really libertarian in nature. So American right wingers are nutty and inconsistent themselves.
Pronouns, gender dysphoria, and all that crazy shit is obviously an anarchistic take towards the norms of binary genders. Its a genuine attempt at destroying normal human conceptions and gender roles. Leftists support Ukraine because Russia is authoritarian. Most universities have marxist elites and subversive “intellectuals” who support anarchism in respects to society.
No, pronouns aren't "obviously" anarchistic. Leftists support Ukraine because they support the FBI against Jan 6ers.
Leftism is influenced by Communism which is a stateless (anarchist) philosophy. The whole attack on cultural norms and gender norms is to destroy labels, language, and cultural authority & standards, & even concepts of family & marriage or religion (which are all oppressive & built up by capitalism and capitalist/feudal government). Its just pure cultural anarchism.
Theres a reason why ‘free love’, modern art, homosexuality, open borders, atheism, weird sexual fetishes, body positivity, attacks on ownership, attacks on history/ones own nation, attacks on police authority, are all associated with the left.
Communism isn't anarchism. You're running on the fumes of James Lindsey.
Dont know who that is
I think you might think leftism is just the American centre left and right wing politics is just American libertarianism aka literally two sides of the same coin.
Yes
indeed.
Why do leftists appear to identify so strongly with people who are often the least conscientious, i.e., the lumpenproletariat, blacks, etc.? Do they not comprehend other minds? I went to a mostly black high school and it took me no time at all to realize that many of those kids were not like me.
I think you are misapprehending "identification" and "pity"
Possibly. But whether or not liberals are neurotic, they should be able to comprehend the nature of the lumpenproletariat. But it seems that they have a tendency to think “There but for the grace of God, go I.”
The thing about EMS and the like is that someone's got to do it. It seems like conservatives want people to view the most dangerous jobs as the center of society so that people do them. If a society thinks the best job are safe jobs, then police/fire/EMS will be done by unmotivated incompetents, or increasingly, barely done.
The fastest EMS service in the world is United Hatzalah of Israel, a volunteer organization. Valorizing first responders produces results that rationalizing first responders simply doesn't. New York, a city whose police department is larger than some armies, has slower EMS response times than Jerusalem.
I also think that the framework I propounded ought to be soundly rejected by any religious conservative. The theconservative attitude must hold any consequentialist outcomes as happy accidents. It is ok to believe that good myths create good societies. But if you think you understand how, you're making the same mistake liberals made when they thought they could eliminate myths. They also thought they had seen through the myths.
If you start judging mythologies by the outcomes they produce, are they still myths?
Hence why I am not a religious conservative; I am a Platonist.
Why do you keep lumping in vaccine skepticism with other conspiracy theories? Here's a recent study on the effect of aluminum injected as part of vaccines (used as a toxin to stimulate an immune system reaction) on autism rates: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36136483/.
Another example is the failed hypothesis to link saturated fat consumption with heart disease: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8541481/.
The left has become the party of blind pseudoscience worship. Obesity and autism rates have skyrocketed in the last few decades: https://www.cdc.gov/autism/data-research/index.html.
Age of the parent correlates better with autism than vaccine participation. Are you willing to listen to the other side and respond to arguments? Here you go:
https://www.cspicenter.com/p/answering-the-anti-vaxxers-stephen
The "left" has been raging against corporate deception on health for decades.
Obesity is higher among conservatives.
Catherine Liu talks about what you describe as leftist signaling in her book Virtue Hoarders. TLDR would be that after the end of the new left, (neo)liberals who believe that the country can be changed to be more progressive through individual change a la Age of Aquarius champion intersectionality as the future. For the Professional Managerial Class it allows for them to be revolutionary with no praxis, all while serving to reproduce capitalist conditions. The PMC uses virtue signaling as a social credential or commodity. Leftism is dismissed as too radical, too unrealistic, and most of all too elitist by these neoliberals who eschew identity politics. Modern conservatives are not removed from identity politics, for every mainstream X there is ‘edgy’ conservative alternative Y to consume.
Pretty good article but I have a little question: Do you think leftism, at least the component that is obsessed with weird and costly « status games » is genuinely a good thing? Something that the worlds need more of?
It makes me think that, at best, it is like sexual selection favoring cool colors in some species of birds: it might be cool but it is not useful+ it is potentially dangerous in the sense that if a new predator arrives, the colorful birds are gonna get killed first.
Really? “the most intelligent HBD right-wingers”? How bout dat? Ok, I’ll bite: WTF?
Do you think Lynn and Dutton are less intelligent than the average racist?
HBD?
yeah, how bout dat!
You take for granted this manichean two-world grand narrative of "leftists" vs "conservatives" that conflates far too much. Corporate seminar leaders, Trotskite book clubbers, Fabian think tankers, anarcho-soup makers, Third-Wayists, Third-Wavists and Three-Arrowists are all different ideologies, different positions, different people.
Nihilistic deconstruction of heuristics doesn't make heuristics false.
I'm not being a nihilist, I'm saying your analysis is facile. You're conflating under the banner of "leftism" many contrasting ideological movements. We probably both agree for the need to use abstractions, heuristics, maps; and that you can have too much nuance— but you can also have not enough. To take one example: corporate hucksters like DiAngelo have a completely different agenda, philosophy, personality, politics, than say, Greek anarchists throwing rocks at cops, the YPJ battalion having gun fights with ISIS and Turkish forces, or the Mauritian socialist coalition government pushing for universal free internet. To conflate everything political that isn't conservative under the broadbrush banner of "leftism", drawing from a narrow North American milieu, and then musing about whether or not these "leftists" are being rational or insane, is highly parochial. You're like Voltaire said of the Holy Roman Empire, you're being neither deep, left, nor analytical.
I am a leftist.
You're article isn't— it accepts the most braindead conservative framing. But perhaps you're aiming at some kind of reductio and I should wait to see in future installments.
Moreover "leftist" is very vague and non-committal. There are social democrats, socialists, communists, anarchists of various sorts.
Fair enough. However, if all this weird modern liberal behavior is religious signalling instead of insanity, then opportunities abound for massive workplace discrimination lawsuits.
Bwahahahahahahahaha!
I disagree with your claim, “economics is downstream of religion” but I do agree leftism is a religion.
There more evidence that religion is downstream of economics. For example, how much the religious makeup of social cliques has a large effect on conversion rates. Or how Moralizing Big god religions are predicted by economic factors, military technology and agriculture output and have no causal effect in the reverse.
CRED theory is powerful and can explain much of weird human behavior but not all of it.
Name an economy not founded on religion. If you think the CCP isn't a religious structure, that's a semantic disagreement. I believe in secular religions.
The CCP is a religious organization. But the doctrines of Xi Jinping Thought is the product of economic forces. The economics come first then the religious rationale.
Actually, civilization was founded by cults, not by "economic forces."
"The aesthetics of human degeneration" is Ted Kaczynski instinctualism.
You can't comprehend *novel* complex systems using *ancient* instincts.